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Now under new management. The change in management has changed that friendly attitude it once had. I don't like this branch anymore because they act like they are above you, they are rude and treat people unfairly. Over all there are a few men that work there that are very nice and helpfull, as for management and the tellers very difficult to get a long with. Just deposited a check for almost , and was told they would put a hold on it.
The teller was very unprofessional and childish when questioned about the number of days for a hold. I tried to cash a check from my dba account, and was turned down by the bank manager, because she insisted that it was not allowed. I then went to another branch and did the exact same thing with absolutely no questions or problems.
They lost a mortgage payment. Hopefully, the manager will redeem this location, based on google reviews they're less than helpful there too. Jerry was very helpful in trying to speed up the process for release of a real estate lien held by Wells Fargo. Eventually, he was not successful -- but that was due to bank procedures and not his lack of trying. He tried very hard. Does Wells Fargo have correspondent bank relationships in British Columbia, if so where are they in what communities?
This is regarding property in foreclosure at 21 N. Yucca Ave, Boles, NM. There is a swarm of bees living inside the carport ceiling and weeds covering the entire property. Brand and Associates is representing you in the foreclosure process. They have been notified and additionally, Seterus property management, as they are the responsible party for property maintenance.
There hasn't been any property maintenance is well over 2 years and now a swarm of bees has built a hive in the carport, thus presenting a health and safety issue. I'd appreciate this being forwarded to the appropriate department for prompt action.
By far the worst WF branch ever visited. The so called branch manager was incompetent and uninformed, and she had no clue regarding proper and customary banking procedures.
Worst yet, she was extremely arrogant, impolite and unfriendly. Don't go there if you want knowledgeable manager or friendly service. There was one teller at the counter and one at the drive thru. With only one customer ahead of me I was surprised when I waited over five minutes. At the ten minute mark, the customer asked the sole teller if there was someone else to help. Andy responded that the girl was "in the back.
Andy responded, "I don't mind if they wait. What poor, ridiculous service. I expect to wait my turn and realize there are situations that take longer to address. The fact that Andy could've call on the other teller to help and had the audacity to verbally say he didn't care that the line of four had to wait was infuriating!!
The 55th St branch is closest to my new house. I will not make the mistake of returning to it. No one was available besides the teller to visit with. I hope someone will care enough to read this feedback and address the issue. I'm still upset about the situation the next day and will certainly share this with everyone I can!!
As usual, unsatisfactory service! Manager was absent so Nobody could verify My account and Routing number in a letter to Medicare! Your website says lobby hours are 9am - 6 pm. However, when I called at 9: Please answer your phones during the same hours as the lobby hours or adjust your website.
This is the kind of inconsistency that makes for bad customer service. Poor, poor, poor customer service and highly understaffed. Definetly does not exist to provide customer service, just want to make money. I understand it's a business but years of mistreatment I've received from this bank made me so furious I will take my business somewhere else.
From my personal experience, i highly suggest not banking at this location. Dear Messers, I received a letter dated on March 24, saying that I did't have enough funds What should I do? Thank u a lot. I have my own "personal banker" Dan Smith.
He knows my family, we know him and he always solves our problems! I was in there today to deposit money and was greeted with smiles, professionalism, and also received some really good advise.
As a business owner receiving constructive criticism is always needed. I may end up utilizing this bank more for my business. I kept the truck and the bugs!! This bank was excellent service and staff were really helpful and friendly If we lived here in Kissimmee we would use this bank. The branch manager, Corina Garcia, lacks finesse and social skills. She's like a bull in a China shop. Someone needs to tell her this isn't East Austin.
There's no need to act that way. I quit going to to this branch. Had some issues with a few online payments that morning because my address wasn't updated for my card. There was almost triple the amount needed available in my account.
The teller called the manager over who told me my funds were not avail and to return tomorrow. I provided all the necessary identification and also explained what happened rallied that morning and even told them the charges that were made during the day if there were concerns about the account. She informed me that the funds weren't avail.
She said it was at her discretion. I called the number and they assured me the funds were available. I returned into the branch and was still unable to to withdraw funds. I had to go to the next closest branch which let me withdraw the funds but I was unable to get back to make my payment by 5pm. The manager at the Henrico branch was very condescending and made me feel very uncomfortable and embarrassed in front of customers. She didn't want to explain or even rationalize her decision.
It was "at my discretion" and "the funds aren't available". Thank you Lisbeth Santana for your help. If you can go to a different location, DO IT!! Five calls later, I still couldn't reach a live person. Misty Sampson was my banker and she was amazing. Helped me understand everything and got me in and out in 20 min. Misty was very polite and helped me get all my needs taken kare of.
I have visited several Welles Fargo banks over the years. During transaction I requested a transaction history and received it for a different account of mine. I requested the desired transaction history from someone who happened to be a store manager, jon lui.
I gave him my transaction receipt and my transaction history. I began to input my card and pin in the machine when he asked for ID. Since I was just at another teller I thought that would be sufficient and I had just given him my papers. He began to explain why I needed an ID. I showed him my ID and he continued to tell me about identification. I said I didn't need a lecture, I just wanted the transaction history I requested. He decided to give me back the bank receipt only, not the original transaction history I had given him with it.
He came from behind the glass with the second transaction history only and decided to give me a lecture in front of the entire bank about identification. I told him I had been baking for 50 years. He didn't like it and threw me out of the bank. Jon lui the store manager said he wasn't going to give me my paper back and I could call all the numbers I wanted to and bragged, go ahead take my name.
He also threatened to call the police and laughed in my face. I was disrespected because I didn't want him to lecture me in a bank full of people. Jon Lui was condescending, cocky and very disrespectful and let the title of store manager go to his head. I reported the incident and received a call from the district manager, who gave the niceties and said he would get more training??????
I am a long standing customer with Wells Fargo Jon kui has no business in any customer relation capacity, especially at a large financial institution. There was no need for him to flex his muscles after I gave him my ID.
And there was no need for him to keep my original transaction detail. This is the worst banking experience I have ever encountered.
There too many alternatives that give better service with professional courteous store manager. Orlando tower Numerous attempts to contact the senior teller I drive past 3 Wells Fargo branches to get to this branch.
The drive is worth while. Service 1, Attitude 1, Clean Bank 1, and knowledge of brand 1. I love the Wilsonville Wells Fargo branch. The staff is professional and friendly. This is my bank. This branch of Wells Fargo Bank is far and away the worst example of corporate banking at its worst.
Sejel Patel always helps me straighten out the accounts with your bank. She makes her job seem effortless. She is so kind and is always so happy and willing to help. It is my pleasure to deal with her.
You are lucky to have her as an employee. First time refinancing, this time when trying to invest monies. Practically no one there could explain why return on savings so low not show math and then inappropriately wanted to know where we got money from to invest. I hate to say this but this is worst Branch to do the simple deposit, PA State issued Id or PA Driver license dose not work even Wells Fargo Bank issued card dose not work to do deposit at this particular branch.
Managers and Tellers need more training. Tellers and managers simply denied me to do the deposit of my check. Simple as it is.. Manager and Tellers are Prejudice at Fairlane village mall. I would never go at this location or branch.
Kenai Branch - Kenai, AK. Burnsville Branch - Burnsville, MN. Philomath Branch - Philomath, OR. Valdese Branch - Valdese, NC. Rittenhouse Branch - Philadelphia, PA. Calexico Branch - Calexico, CA. We're not killing each other for the most part at least within our own society but we are competing for limited resources to our own detriment. It is important to note that women are playing their own role in this game of losers.
Women by evolutionary design primarily revolving around the unequal distribution of effort regarding procreation seek out comfort and safety which play into the unequal distribution of power and wealth.
Early on men realize their ability to find a partner directly correlates to their ability to acquire wealth so as to be a better provider of safety and comfort for a wife and any potential offspring. While it is true a poor man can find a partner it should come as no surprise that the greater wealth a man possesses the more opportunities he has to find a desirable mate. So we are left with a very complicated answer to what seems like a reasonably simple question.
Unfortunately we are dealing with complex systems based upon an unequal distribution of wealth, power and knowledge. My explanation is quite limited in its scope but explains the answer as I see it. Unfortunately the answer I've given also infers similar issues with offline dating as ultimately this has little to do with the internet and more to do with society.
The internet plays its own role in this debacle with its inherent anonymity further allowing a debasement of the civilized forms of respect we've come to accept as normal. Consider for instance civilization isn't so much truly civil as it is civil within the confines of its power structures. Also I can attest to the fact that I currently hold an account on okcupid. I am currently looking for a partner.
I have also chosen to abstain from competition regarding wealth and power and instead am attempting to find a place on the fringes of society where I can be myself without harming others.
I own very little, earn very little, and struggle to find women willing to get to know someone in my societal position as a potential partner. Certainly there are many good women open to dating a man such as myself but the difficulty is increased immensely. I have to be honest, your reply, while very interesting on societal analysis level, in very interesting, but it is indeed slightly off topic.
I am just surprised, being that Website dating starts with writing and pictures, that men put so little effort in writing. It would be like going to a date wearing really sloppy clothes. My question was not based upon a society of equals, but it was based on a society where all have access to school, which is the case in the US. However biased the system is, we all have choices and access to literacy regardless of gender. I was also not considering dating based on a marketing transaction -men with fat bank accounts and women stuck in comfort zones- but based on feelings and building a life with someone of the opposite sex because when you're with that person, you don't feel like you need or wish to be anywhere else.
And that has absolutely nothing to do with bank accounts and comfort zones. But in this country, everything revolves around marketing laws, including what cannot be bought, sold, or quantified.
Which is why I don't have an account, because dating accounts are marketing tools, too. That said, you might run into a human being on one of them at some point, because anything is possible. I really appreciate your succinct description of our issues with marketing in all facets of our life. Regarding the point you have made in regards to how little effort men put into writing as a means of sharing their true selves I would like to suggest that the issue is not limited to men. I've perused hundreds of women's profiles and I can attest that it is a rare person that writes of themselves in a fashion that isn't simply a marketing job.
The vast majority of women's profiles read exactly like a job application. I don't believe the issue has to do with literacy per se. Instead I believe the issue lies with the individuals capacity to think for themselves.
I mentioned education as I believe a large part of the intended goal is to afford people the ability to receive instruction. As opposed to being able to decide whether or not they should be following the instructions. My most recent relationship was with an intelligent and compassionate woman who received a Waldorf education and in turn taught at the Waldorf Highschool she attended.
She repeatedly informed me in our year and a half together that she wasn't comfortable with showing me her true self. Instead she often acted in ways to impress me. Even after we'd been together over a year she was still putting on airs. Certainly this could be attributed to my actions. However having lived through the experience I can attest that I strove to make her feel loved and accepted as she was.
Ultimately what I've come to understand is that she has not yet learned to accept herself. I believe this is incredibly common in our society. After all our marketing systems have done a very thorough job of setting impossible and often inane ideals and as we are both aware the primary victims are women.
For someone to truly connect with another person and feel completely content with another they must first know and accept themselves. In my forty plus years in America I believe that to be a rarity. I have known people of all ages including countless couples who seem to have a better grasp on celebrities lives than they do on their own. I can count perhaps a handful of people I've met who have formed their own systems of belief.
The vast majority have simply accepted whatever belief system they were fed without question. It seems as if very few people have done the internal work required to truly know oneself. That was one of the main points I was attempting to get across. My long winded explanation may have been an ineffectual attempt at explaining my reasoning behind this issue.
Thank you for sharing your insight and reasoning behind your disinterest in online dating. In regards to myself I have done a lot of work to understand the world in my own fashion as opposed to what I was taught. My dating profile is quite lengthy and is intended to share who I am as a human being in hopes of finding someone that has done similar work.
What I have shared of myself also has the benefit of eliminating a lot of potential conflicts that typically arise in conversations with people as part of the process of getting to know one another. I have no way of knowing whether or not any of this matters but I figured that trying a new tact certainly cannot cause me to be more single than I already am.
I wonder if the information provided about there being more men than women is for a particular age group? I am reasonably attractive and several of my photos were taken by a professional not altered in any way-I wanted it to be clear that they are really like me and give the date taken. I've put a lot of effort into my profile so that it gives unique info about me and describes the qualities of a good guy are to me and despite having at least one hundred matches in my region I haven't received any communication sincc e the first week when 2 men contacted me with questions.
So I have communicated with several men. Are all the men contacting the same small subset of women or are they to lazy to communicate at all. Several of the men I communicated with then viewed my profile and neither responded or blocked me.
It takes only 2 clicks to block a profile. I find it inconsiderate. I think I'll connect with you Intellectually. It remains to be seen if I'll also connect spiritualily and emotionally. I'm 19 going on 20 and the first messages are from guys way older than me at 30 and up to their 50's. Where are the dudes closer to my age!
Seriously why, Even when I dont have a picture Well, some men prefer younger women maybe for their youth or maybe they feel they can manipulate them before they get older? Some older women are bitter after a divorce or bad relationships with bad men could be another reason. I am almost 53 and no offense prefer women around my own age, say 47 to I have had younger women in their early 20's to 30's interested on Match: I was married for 24 years, been divorced 3 years.
I am 5'7 in shape and the dating world seems wicked since I was married and I have dated some attractive ladies. It does work but the odds are seriously stacked against men. Women, if they know their value and are pretty, want Superman.
They block or ignore them Online dating sucks for men. Women have to weed through the countless messages determining who the winner is. Pretty accurate assessment when it comes to men. Let's cut to the chase. I have been on and off dating sites for 8 years. Had a couple of relationships but from women, here are some of what I get regularly: To attract men, the majority of women describe themselves as "athletic and toned", "liberal", "love the outdoors" and most of them kayak, mountain climb, zip line, hang glide, parachute, run marathons, swim, etc.
When do they find time for a relationship? I don't think that many men on these sites fit that criteria. Men also exchange messages online and all of a sudden it goes dead but women are online still talking with others but not responding to your last message I have read "no receding hairlines", "no skin problems", "no facial hair", "only vegans should write back", "if you did not vote for Barack Obama don't bother replying", "if you are voting for Trump please don't email me", "no men with brown eyes", "only blue eyes please" and even "if you have toe nail fungus don't bother contacting me".
I could write a book. BTW, these same women call themselves "down to earth" and "looking for a great guy who is thoughtful, caring, a good communicator, financially sound, etc. Myself, I have a great job, financially set, not picky, average looking, 5'7" pounds, etc.
But women are looking for George Clooney, Brad Pitt hey ladies here is your chance I'd say caring who the person is going to vote for is important. If you have liberal views you want someone else who does too.
If you have conservative political views you might not get along with a liberal political view. I personally don't even want to be friends with anyone who would vote for Trump. Why would I be willing to date someone who does? I think if it comes down to values and lifestyle choices, it's ok to state those. But yes, requiring a specific height, hairline, etc is very silly.
You also do have to be attracted to the person. As someone who has dated someone just because they like their personality and has tried to look past their appearance, I can tell you it has lead to be not wanting sex. Now if the guy is ok with no sex, then sure it doesn't matter what someone looks like. But yeah media and society has screwed with both genders view on what is and isn't attractive and that can make online dating, and non-online dating very difficult.
I dated a Liberal woman and no conflicts arose from our political differences. I find it troubling you wouldn't even want to be friends with someone who would vote for Trump, or even someone who wouldn't be friends with another who voted for Hillary. You sound grossly intolerant of other people's views. You should be open to people with differing views than your own, otherwise you will fall into engaging in groupthink and confirmation bias. In other words, you will not learn much in this world seeking out people who will just agree and affirm your opinions on life.
You grow by seeking those out who can show you a different perspective. In my experience, I've found people like you frustrating to say the least. My favorite moment is when they stop messaging in the middle of conversation. You try again and again but there is no response although she's online, like she had a heart attack suddenly. Another one is when they don't show up. First date and without any warning just no show. Then no response of course.
Love those moments especially when they call men creeps. After several contacts like this in the row, men can start acting creepy, I guess. They learn very quickly to not give any respect to women because they are not going to get it back even when everything is going very well.
Well, I'm not there yet but I get pissed sometimes, it's nothing like in real life. I never thought that beeing 5. Asking women to give you a chance and message you back after looking at your message and profile is like women asking you to message and reach out whenyou have zero attraction, nothing in common and zero interest in taking to.
It goes both ways. Just because you're intrested and they aren't doesn't mean they want bad boys and smooth talkers. Men you don't reach out to women you're not attracted to, don't except women to make the exceptions lol. The difference, Brooke, is that men find a wide variety of women attractive. Women all find the exact same men attractive. The popularity of online dating is increasing day by day as some of amazing apps are already out in the market. We can expect some more apps which will be safe and great to use in the future.
I know some girls might not want to hear or accept this but it's a reality. I'm not a pig and I have good intentions, I want nothing more than a real relationship with someone I'm mutually attracted to. But if I can't have that I will take what I want and go from there. Ladies, my advice is if you take the best men available to you online this is likely to happen.
Remember, we men are taking our best options because we're in a totally different ballpark. We get messages once every couple weeks if we're lucky, you gals get up to hundreds in that time-frame and rarely message us back. It sets you up to be shallow.
I probably would be too if the roles were reversed. First let me say that I am by no means attacking any one person in particular and I though it may sound like it at times, the statements I am making are simply my opinion and only my opinion. Beyond that, I do not pretend to be an expert on what women want or what men do incorrectly.
I am merely being as honest as the others on this site to whom I say thank you. So please, know I am coming from the same frustrated place as the thoughtful and honest men and women who have commented here. I only hope to give my viewpoint to perhaps shed some light however dim, LOL on the incorrect, ill-advised thoughts and information that men make about women vs.
And that men and women can somehow reach a semblance of mutual understanding. It is never my goal to exacerbate the problem or further drive a wedge between us.
So- having said all that — whew! Allow me to explain: See, we women love sex, too depending, of course , but we are not coming from the same, ahem, overwhelming pressure point as most men.
And so do women. We are human, too. Yes, I admit, we too have eyes and are attracted to someone good looking but guess what? And with men, it is. I cannot speak for all women nor would I claim to,, but I know enough of us sufficient to go out on a limb here and say the following with measured confidence: And they would not be lying about that, either. A true nice guy, in our minds is a man who treats us with mutual respect, And those guys are cherished and sought after, not overlooked.
Or, if you are, maybe you are not allowing that to shine through in your profile somehow? Please get it straight, please. I am referring to non-physical, non-employment or money-based attributes which we women, go figure , are truly looking for in a partner. Meanwhile, you guys are doing the ole, what is it? We have to expend a large chunk of our lives and real energy thinking about crap you would never dream of,. Fear and risk are a real thing and do play into the whole online dating thing for us, as much as you might not want to believe it or ever even factor it in.
So please, try to remember things beyond your own paradigm. We will do the same for you. Good luck out there everyone! You did spend a lot of time on your tex to clarify the situation! I salute you for this effort. I do understand and identify to all of what you said. I am only saddenned that the phenomenon of online dating is a speculative viscious circle where the more men need to date someone, the more selective because submerged women are and therefore the more men need to date someone!
II don't think you are spitting on us and I understand that it is a delicate matter on both sides. Reversing the mechanism will take a lot of goodwilling people ready to change their attitudes! One guy sent me this message: I can make sure you are kept well dressed and have all the latest handbags.
All you have to do is give it to me whenever I want it. My response seeing as men complain that they don't get a response and women are just being rude: I can buy these things on my own as I am self sufficient and make my own way in this world. You sound like you are looking for a whore. You may want to spend your time at a brothel instead of wasting your time on dating sites. You are everything I am looking for to complete my life.
I think we could be great together. My response after looking at his profile or lackthereof as a headless torso with only a vague description of what his interests are or any indication that he has a personality: I am very flattered by your compliment.
I can foresee major problems in this relationship already. You and I can be great together, and that's all we need. You are my perfect dream girl. Sound fair to you? I can dig what you were trying to say here Cause there is a lot of substance. But some of what you say completely contradicts the evidence that has been compiled on this subject. This isn't an opinion So while I appreciate your input and I do feel there was a lot to gain from it You are completely wrong in your assessment that women aren't as shallow as men.
If anything because they have so many choices They filter them by looks. It's sad but true. Society in general and men in particular are very critical of women's looks. Many unattractive men have beautiful partners but rarely do you see the opposite. You rarely see unattractive women in movies or on the news media and yet there are many men who are not gorgeous who have successful careers in these fields. Women know, from their teens, that their prospects throughout their lives will be limited if they are not beautiful.
Most men, especially attractive ones, will not give them the time of day if they are not a "10" or close. Women tend to focus on relationships and family while men are driven by their desire for sex.
The notion that women are only motivated by looks in the search for a partner is pretty far fetched when you consider the natural tendencies of women and men. I think you're close but still off the mark. The only unattractive men with beautiful wives are those with money. I think this statement is incorrect:.
Women often call unattractive men without money who flirt with them "creeps", but these are often the same women who welcome the advances of men who are either attractive or are wealthy. You can see this in how most women still expect men to pay for the first date or women joke with their friends that he was "cheap" and in most cases won't go on another date - and this often has no reflection of the actual incomes of the two parties.
Your view as women as inherently more moral than men in the dating game is a bit sexist and outdated to be honest. Women have their unfair standards about men as well, and society strongly supports those in how they socialize young boys. The main difference is people mostly recognize unfair standards they set for women while society has failed terribly at recognizing the unfair standards set for men. As an older woman 49 , I felt obligated to respond to anyone that contacted me, even it it was to acknowledge we did not have much in common I do believe this is one of the downside of online dating We would never think of behaving like this if meeting someone in person but we think it's ok to do so when behind a keyboard.
As mentioned by one of the poster My god you're a saint. Ireally didn't think anyone like you still existed in our society today, I try to do the same but some are so touchy and perhaps so used to ghosting that they lash out, but I still won't stop Your post litterally made my eyes swell and I just nearly cried. I don't need all women to like me, just a little compassion and empathy The unfortunate aspect of "being polite" or "having respect" for individuals who have taken the time to message you is the percentage of men who then lash out in anger or rage when you do send them a succint, polite "thank you, but I don't think we're a match, but good luck to you" message.
Some men resort to insulting your looks, your weight, your single status "oh, i see you're stuck up and think you're too good for guys.
Some go so far as to threaten you physically if they ever see you in public. So, while sending a nice, polite "no thank you" message is a lovely thing to do, I'm afraid to say a number of your more rage-filled brethren have ruined that for you and made women absolutely fearful to even attempt to turn a man's interest down, even if politely. I find the topic of online dating very interesting. I try as much as possible to understand it from both male and female perspectives and I enjoy talking to women about it to see what their experience is like.
I'm not your typical male in online dating, while most of my messages go unanswered I do converse with and meet women online. I've had several relationships from online and I plan on continuing to use it. I'm a 27 year old male and I'm not a "hottie", but I am tall and in shape and maybe that helps me. It seems online dating is starting to get easier for me these days especially. I'm successful which I do say in my profile, and I'm wealthy which my profile does not say.
All this being said, there are some major drawbacks for me. We all have our things we're into but I'm often guessing if I'm even attracted to the women I agree to meet. I take the chance anyways because it's my best option at that time. Some of the women I meet I find attractive, but most of the time they aren't as good looking as girls I would date in real life. As a guy who does really well in a date setting, almost every girl I meet wants to see me again, I'm left frustrated by this.
I know I'm a catch, and I carry that with me but online I rarely have the choice to date women I'm attracted to. They come around once in a while but most don't answer me back. So what do we have here?
We have a guy who is dating mostly girls he's not really attracted to because those are his options. But it doesn't end here. I'm human, I like sex, and I will pursue and sleep with girls I'm not totally into if it's been a while. As a guy who's more successful in online dating than most men I just wanted to share my experience. I know, I'm technically adding to the very problem I'm complaining about by dating and sleeping with women I'm not attracted to.
But, can you blame me if that's usually all I can get online? Meet us halfway, you might find a guy who is amazing and will treat you with love and respect. There is a clear divide in what men and women can attain in terms of physical attractiveness online. Yep you sound like a total catch! Anyone that says they are a "catch" usually are not.
This is a fun line, because it's so easy to prove that it is a lie. Last week I sent 20 messages on match that said "Hi, you seem like an interesting woman. And so we see that what this woman says is a lie. If you still think she's not lying, try if for yourself and you'll see. The problem with Match is that most of the profiles are inactive. The people you messaged probably never saw it to begin with. The best way to get your foot in the door is to find something in their profile to start a conversation about.
Ask them an open-ended question so they start talking about that and themselves. Say they list Adele as one of the musicians they like. You could say something like, "What do you think of Adele's new album whatever? I think her best effort on it was whatever song because What is your opinion? I mean at least it shows you read her profile AND it is a conversation starter. It would be like saying, "Do you want to go see some movie? It's like when women give you that infamous piece of advice to "just be yourself" I think you should do some research on what the differences in amounts of grey and white matter mean.
Your interpretation of the difference between genders and the effect it has on how women think is skewed and not fact based. It does account for why men are better at math and women are better language skills, but it does not mean that women make decisions based on feelings.
Maybe you want to believe that, but it does not make it true. Your relative is exactly the wrong example to use for why online dating is bad for women.
That's not nearly enough time. Yes, it's creepy that men twice her age were hitting on her, that shouldn't even be allowed. There should be a filter and I think there are more of those now.
Are there going to be total weirdos sending you messages? Yes, but you have the option to ignore every new e-mail as a woman. That means a woman can spend an hour writing five emails to the "perfect" matches they're looking for. They'll get one response and likely that guy will ask her out within a week. If you don't like the creepy emails, don't read them! Men on the other hand have no other option then to send out hundreds of emails and they better be more then just, "Hey, I love your smile in that one photo and we have this, this, this in common.
You have to "perform" for them and they have to get your sense of humor through text. Then if you're good looking and tall at least 6'3' because they're going to assume you're adding three inches you've got a shot. And even then they might blow you off because they don't want to tell people they met their boyfriend online.
I just deleted my profile on OKCupid and I'll tell you why I received many messages from men, some creepy messages Seems that a lot of men are quite happy to remain behind a screen and those who are up to meeting right away are seeking sex.. One man messaged me and stated he found my profile interesting that we had much in common, we messaged back and forth and then he asked for my cell so we could chat Probably because some other woman was more willing to meet up and cut in front of you without the needless back and forth.
Yeah, this seems pretty spot on. For women its a barrage of messages and makes them think thery're god's on Earth, no matter how ugly. For men it's a quiet hole to realize women are a lot more shallow than they knew, no matter how attractive. This makes the women bat way above their league and the men bat way below. The best part to illustrate this?
I'd say all of the women I message first are at least around my physical attractiveness league, but all the women that message me first are way, waaaay below it. Like obese chicks levels below it. Now if there was a way you could fix this by making an environment that gave men the upper hand and not women Maybe it'd be more balanced.
But as it is systems where men get the same features as women on dating sites are stupid asymmetric in terms of payback. Women get crazy shallow and men get crazy depressed. Interesting idea, but not my experience.
I get my fair share of messages.. I'm pretty good looking by most standards, though I'm fully aware I'm not the most attractive, and I often find messages from men who are far less physically attractive than the men I've dated IRL some of whom I've met online!
Of all the men, most find my profile interesting and say so, even if there's a blatantly obvious comment about interests, what we're seeking, or looks that should make it obvious that we aren't compatible.
It's like they ignore it and try, anyway. Perhaps again, based solely on my experiences if they spent time seeking and messaging women who seemed like they'd be mutually compatible not just that they find good looking then they'd have more success.
I would certainly not waste my time messaging men who I figured wouldn't be interested. It's not genuine, and not a good use of time and energy. First of all, saying "not my experience" is wrong in this case.
You seem to have had success as a woman on these dating sites. Maybe not "the perfect experience", but I can say with certainty that your experience was far better than mine. My theory here is the odds are stacked in women's favour only on dating sites; don't get this mixed up as a anti-feminist bash fest. It's a pretty big statement to say that men don't get dates because they look way too high out of their league.
I did a social experiment in June after never used dating sites. I wanted to take it like a game so that the huge amount of rejection I predicted wouldn't sting so much. I signed up for 5 different services and sent around message.
I also used an auto right swipe bot on the services that provided such a feature. I varied between questions, jokes, statements, compliments. Any advice I got from anyone, including your grandma, I tried out. I got a professional photographer and only used his photos on the site. The response rate was terrible. Many of those women I found incredibly compatible, but many I skipped. The "basic bitches", the club rats, the "you-are-crazy-out-of-my-league-ers". My only rule was if I thought I wouldn't hate talking to her I would give it a shot.
It didn't tend to matter though; I had 2 terrible dates after two months of work. Then I started talking to my female friends. They all had pretty good conversation rates, getting anywhere from messages per day. And their conversations tended to last if they wanted it to. What I realized was the dynamic was completely different; women naturally start becoming a lot more arbitrarily selective because of this constant initiation. If you don't stand out with your picture as a man you're doomed to failure: Whether or not you would be a great fit, whether or not you're a secret agent or a millionaire.
So to say the reason I saw so much rejection was because I focused on women way out of my league is a total insult. It's a hypocrisy too; you keep having success being totally selective but advise others to bat lower. It's mindsets like this that keep traditional dating sites as traps for the average joe. I can assure you that I do NOT! I have tried messaging a variety of looks types because I focus more on compatibility factors, as Marissa stated.
So I look for guys with common interests and humor who are ok looking no, I'm not going to message an obese guy 20 years my senior, but someone average looking and in my age range. I have messaged men who were short, chubby, bald, etc. I've also messaged men who are taller and thin like I am, but they very rarely respond, and if they do, it usually doesn't last long.
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